Cybertown Mayor Jolinth's First Citywide Meeting
Short story by jdb_educator
Here is the very short of Jolinth's first citywide short notice meeting. Perhaps 130 or more people rolled through City Hall Saturday to read. Listen and chat about several different topics. Serving in office for less than 30 days, Mayor Jolinth and Deputy Mayor Koala Bear have been exceedingly busy making changes and working with the city and Cybertown staff to make fixes. There is only limited tech help at present, The current mayor's term will end next September, meaning a new election is coming. Security is hiring and abuses are in the eye of the beholder, but there are report and accusation processes for citizens. Citizen protections through security and the CERB are in place. Swb returns as CERB chief in a new appointment, and wovencroft was applauded and appreciated for his efforts there. A World's fair is still in the event planning and so are several other ideas.
Positions have been filled, interviews held and voting continues by the council on several positions. If you want to read a longer, edited version , we have that too.
The following issues were discussed and placed into sections below: Term of office, security, Abandoning hoods, general terms of office, Notification of Events, Choosing Colony Leaders, Procedures on hiring new chief, new colonies?, Technical Assistance, open meetings. Cybertown's future, clubs question and citywide events in planning. We placed the Additional Questions not addressed due to time, that we identified and then a short Wrap up of the meeting.
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Below are details on the following questions and answers. The headings are colored, centered and larger for easy scrolling.
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : First off, updates on what we are up to :)
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : As you have seen, we have posted several new placements to various positions throughout the city
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : The council has also had 2 meetings since KB and I took office
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : both I feel were very productive
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : There are the following positions remaining to be filled:
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : MSC Colony Leader - All interviews have been completed now
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Adventures Colony Leader - Ditto :) voting is in process
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : ePlex Chief - Finished the last interview this morning.. voting will be starting
Question And Answers
Term of office
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : I think one that everyone wants to know ..
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : About our term :))
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Our term in office ends in September
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : that gives us 12 months working with the council
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : :) that's the intention..
[Security Commissioner] Oherra [18857] : ditto :)
Question And Answers
Security
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Question: How can we stop Securities abuse of power? Even to publicly disagree with them gets you threatened or banned Or worse banned all. Most of security doesn't even know the rules and they make them up.
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Answer: Although I disagree with the term 'abuse of power' again depends on your view. This is currently being addressed by security in a blanket training and an official manual. There will always be area's of dispute when it comes down
to personal issue's and that's where Oherra can assist to solve disagreements. I have no problem with the way Oherra currently handles issue's and if you have a complaint please address it to security .
[Security Commissioner] Oherra [18857] : If you have a problem with how you were treated by a specific security staff member, we do have ways of letting you address those concerns without directly getting into a confrontation with the officer.
[Security Commissioner] Oherra [18857] : There is a form for complaints on our website, this goes to one of the security chiefs who will look into and address your complaints.
[Security Commissioner] Oherra [18857] : You can find it at www.cytsecurity.com
[C.E.R.B.] Xantix [15648] : May I also comment Jo?
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : of course
[C.E.R.B.] Xantix [15648] : After a ban took place the C.E.R.B. can also review the case.
[C.E.R.B.] Xantix [15648] : That is if it is longer than two weeks.
[C.E.R.B.] Xantix [15648] : And we do have an new inbox to answer any concern you may all have about us. :-)
[Neighborhood Deputy] Oraek [6674] : I think we need to change the approach Security is taking. I don't think security is abusing power at all, but the approach they take might cause some citizens to believe so
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Oherra? would you like to respond?
[Colony Deputy] Lothien [18240] : I believe that many don't truly understand the responsibility security takes on, and yes, in any profession you risk a few bad apples, but I for one believe that security does a great service to the city and should be commended on the whole
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : all of us need to practice a bit of self control
Simioni : oops, sorry, let one extra out there
[Security Commissioner] Oherra [18857] : Oreak how would you have us change our approach :) ?
[Security Chief] Angel-Eyez [18180] : Yes I would like to know how much more you would like us to do as well to make Cybertown more security friendly as we do take care of tons of stuff in here everyday :)
[Neighborhood Deputy] Oraek [6674] : Well... Oherra. I personally have nothing wrong with securities current approach. It's straight forward and all to me. Other citizens believe otherwise, that there is abuse of power, so perhaps the handling of situations could be amore sensitive to the accused. That's just my view from what I've heard though
[Club Owner] Mage_NightStar [1058] : Ok, I'm some what new to CT. I don't understand why you have to be 18 to be in security? Underage kids can have just as much responsibility as adults.
[Security Commissioner] Oherra [18857] : Thanks Oreak, I appreciate your comments :)
[Security Commissioner] Oherra [18857] : Mage_NightStar security officers must sign contracts with the city promising to keep certain things confidential. The contracts are not valid if you are under 18 and that is the main reason officers must be 18.
[Colony_Deputy] Gizmo_2000 [12057] : I have one security concern. Can some type of time structure be assigned to security personnel online? in many occasions I needed to contact a security officer ASAP an none was online.
[Security Commissioner] Oherra [18857] : Gizmo: We are working on increasing the staff in all time slots. We have added new officers each week for the past month and are continuing to do so :)
[Templar] Fratman_04 [18647] : I think the macros security uses and has used are a tad "impersonal" or even "bot like" i think if you could do the warns (at least the initial warning) in a more friendly tone it would help out a lot
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : If I may say, I think that security has about the toughest job in town and I think that they are really trying to make a positive difference
[Security Commissioner] Oherra [18857] : Fratty, lol I try to personally type a macro but when you do hundreds a day you have to reduce it to a generic thing or your hands get tired :)
Simioni : ...: I say we develop a task force (sort of like a real town) and Address Security on the issues that arise about this.. It would be a trail period made up of respected members of the community, mayor, dep mayor, sec chief and commissioner and dep chief
[Security Chief] Angel-Eyez [18180] : Also you can contact any one in security through email if you want as well, many of us have emails that are for example [email protected] and so on
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : definitely something to consider, Simi
[Security Chief] Angel-Eyez [18180] : and trust me we do check our emails as I get tons of it a day :)
[Security Commissioner] Oherra [18857] : Perhaps in lieu of a task force, security can host its own town meetings on a somewhat semi-regular basis.
Simioni : maxhest suggested that, not me :-)
[Security Chief] Angel-Eyez [18180] : good idea Oherra I would be willing to answer questions for the citizens
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : If I may say, I think that security has about the toughest job in town and I think that they are trying very hard to make a positive difference
[Security Commissioner] Oherra [18857] : Thanks Fly :)
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : true Fly.... I know I couldn't do it myself
[E-Plex Deputy] arkducky [20832] : I totally agree with you fly
[E-Plex Deputy] CyberAngel2000 [16224] : I sincerely thank them for their dedication!
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : you bet
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : I agree. There have been a lot of positive things coming out of security
[Elder] Radicool [12302] : people need to remember than even a BL or NL or CL are only human also. We all make mistakes. No one walks on water. Support your colony/hood/block. and support the city staff too.
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : I see 130
[Colony Leader] CassAnn [19717] : I'd like to comment- security has a softer side lately that I found impressive
[City Council] Lysander [27206] : 92 here
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : should I post another question now and move on?
[Security Chief] Angel-Eyez [18180] : O herra has crashed and will brb
[Colony Leader] Karyll [29956] : wow, I see 129.. LOL
[Colony Leader] CassAnn [19717] : I've seen security handle citizens arguing etc. with kindness and reasoning
[Colony Leader] CassAnn [19717] : I've also seen kind warnings, gentle reminders
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : me too
[Elder] frankster200 [9176] : what about giving BOOT capabilities to place deputies or even house and club owners while they are in their house club, this would ease the burden on security
[Templar] Fratman_04 [18647] : maybe not boot, but being able to at least gag somebody in your own home/club would be quite helpful
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : many people forget about putting a bothersome person on ignore
[VirtMaster] gnat [23882] : wouldn't moderation in homes take care of the problems anyone would have there and do not places chiefs and deps have moderation there?
[Security Commissioner] Oherra [18857] : Hi guys, the problems with gagging and booting, is that those things cause someone to get a record.
[Neighborhood Deputy] Oraek [6674] : You can already do that. It's called the Chat Access
Question And Answers
NLs Abandoning hoods
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Couldn't there be some rule set forth to stop the madness of when an NL decides to leave a hood, so does 1/2 a dozen other employees. Some type of limit to it, like you can't just jet, you have to stay for replacement or you cant get rehired for x amount of time in that position or higher . It's all around a very unfair situation, and it seems to happen quite often. It seems as if we could come up with something that would prohibit this...
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : answer:
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Colonies set their own guidelines on hiring procedures and requirements. City Council does not dictate policy for the colonies
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : comments?
[Colony Leader] CassAnn [19717] : I know that for Games, we do not try to force people to stay if they do not want to
[City Council] Lysander [27206] : same in SciFi
[Colony Leader] CassAnn [19717] : that would make people unhappy and I don't think it would be a benefit for the hood or colony
[Colony_Deputy] Vitalone [22065] : There's no way we can prevent someone from quitting and moving, and taking their whole entourage with them.
[Colony Deputy] Lothien [18240] : MSC has a 2 week notice policy
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : I think it would be next to impossible to keep track of people who left without warning and shouldn't be rehired
[City Council] Lysander [27206] : sounds a bit like slavery
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : it would have to be a city wide thing too
[E-Plex Deputy] CyberAngel2000 [16224] : I totally agree Vi, it would simply be their loss if they left
[Security Commissioner] Oherra [18857] : really I think this happens in real life too, if a store gets a new manager many people may be unhappy with new policy and find another job. It's a fact of "city life." :)
[Colony_Deputy] Vitalone [22065] : I agree with Vialle, but we could keep track of those who left without notice....
[Neighborhood_Deputy] Fire-Valkyrie [10284] : besides, if someone was forced to stay how good a job would they do?
[Colony Leader] CassAnn [19717] : there are always wonderful people just waiting to fill those jobs if you give them a chance :-)
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] :
[City Council] Lysander [27206] : true
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : of course there's nothing wrong with a CL asking another CL if they've had a problem with a previous employee :)
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : that's one way to find out
[E-Plex Deputy] CyberAngel2000 [16224] : Indeed
[Colony_Deputy] Vitalone [22065] : Right, that's just checking references.
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : like a job reference thing?
[Ambassador] Jason_RC [10356] : you could always not give them a reason to quit by encouraging development and teamwork within the colony...those who leave for RL reasons tend to still stay where they live....it is only those who go with animosity that take others with them
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : I just think it would be hard to keep that info updated on a site somewhere
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : true Jason
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : :) good input
Question And Answers
General Terms of Office
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Question: What are the terms of Office for elected City officials?
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Answer: This has been posted several times. Mayor/Deputy Mayor are terms of 2 years. C.E.R.B. Representatives and Chief are 1 year terms, may be elected for a 2 year term.
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : there are no other termed positions at this time.
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : comments
[Colony_Deputy] Vitalone [22065] : for a second year, but can't exceed two years, isn't that right, Jo?
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] :
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : right :)
[Ambassador] Jason_RC [10356] : Ambassador and Ambassador deputy are currently 1 year terms Jo
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : can't exceed two terms
[Neighborhood Deputy] Oraek [6674] : What is the age requirement for running for Mayor?
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : 21
[Colony Deputy] Coolkama [12006] : due to again... contracts
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : I believe it was 21
[Neighborhood Deputy] Dillinja [5572] : why the difference in age limits between Mayor and city council?
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : The Mayor does have access to more confidential information
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : Teen colony was meant for teens under 18
[Gallery Deputy] goldboarder [12718] : Why are there age limits a teen can do just a good job as any grown up can
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : and because of certain legal things that happen...18 was always considered the minimum.
[Neighborhood Deputy] Dillinja [5572] : so the confidentiality contract becomes null and void for teen colony CL, due to age?
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : :o)
[Security Commissioner] Oherra [18857] : Actually Dillinja I believe their parents{Teen CLs) can allow them to accept the agreement.
[City Council] Lysander [27206] : :))
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Or a parent signs for them? Not sure exactly..good question
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : phee..on with the list please :)
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : we'll check on that
[Security Commissioner] Oherra [18857] : However for mayor and security, often times we must deal with real life law enforcement
[Security Commissioner] Oherra [18857] : which requires someone who is legally able to contract. ;) on his or her own.
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : definitely a different situation there :)
Question And Answers
Notification of Events
City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Question: What procedures are in place for notifying the City populace of important events other than the News and Message Boards? Late notice of events such as this Meeting almost guarantee less than ideal participation.
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Answer: The procedure is to publish in CVN and the Message Boards.
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : I think today's participation is outstanding :)
[Neighborhood Deputy] Oraek [6674] : The City Calendar, which can be accessed from the Jump Gate
Simioni : Or the Activities button on the control panel Oraek
[Colony Leader] Karyll [29956] : Also, at colony level, we message to all hoods, where appropriate, and make use of our yahoogroups and word of mouth.
[City Council] Lysander [27206] : It should be common sense to take a look at your Colony or Hood MB at least twice a week... the more often the better
[Neighborhood Deputy] Oraek [6674] : You should look at the Colony Board every day as it gets posts very frequently
[Neighborhood Deputy] Debuty5 [1932] : I think we need new CVN staff I've been for 4 days with no news and they updated it on the 4th day late
[E-Plex Deputy] CyberAngel2000 [16224] : Debuty please check out the CVN Weekly http://cvnweekly.50megs.com/
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : yes that's also an excellent source for news!
[E-Plex Deputy] CyberAngel2000 [16224] : Most of our content is updated there
[E-Plex Deputy] CyberAngel2000 [16224] : And tons of sections to read
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : The CVN staff tries very hard
[E-Plex Deputy] CyberAngel2000 [16224] : Indeed!
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : yes they do :)
[Colony Deputy] Lothien [18240] : in addition most Colonies have newsletters I believe as well
[E-Plex Deputy] CyberAngel2000 [16224] : Note: CVN ALWAYS has a job opening in either the Weekly or Daily. (just send an email to [email protected] )
Question And Answers
Choosing Colony Leaders
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Question: Has there been any discussion regarding a change to how colony leaders may be chosen in future? The present system is obviously flawed (how does a system where the present CLs chose who they want to work alongside them, regardless of overwhelming public opinion, be considered a viable system?). Perhaps a more representative method, such as requiring a majority from a public colony wide vote? Or separate CL and CC positions, and requiring a majority for the CC position? Thank you for your time.
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Answer: There has been the discussion on separating the Colony Leader/City Council positions into two. It was voted down at that time. Colony Leader positions have been opened for outside candidates in the past and present. When there is a strong candidate who has been recommended by the exiting Colony Leader, that candidate is still voted and approved by the other members of the council, the caretakers, and the Founder
[Elder] Radicool [12302] : comment: how about having the NLs and CDs vote for the CL?
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Also..in some cases, the candidates have been with the CL for quite sometime..a strong relationship has been established
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : and in some cases..the citizens are used to going to that person
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : I'll use myself as an example.
[E-Plex Deputy] CyberAngel2000 [16224] : Are you still seriously considering the possibility of separating the CLs and CC?
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : When I stepped down from InnerRealms...Karyll had been there from day 1, had worked on the colony and everyone was already used to her always "being there" it was quite logical to appoint her in my place and receive the right approvals and votes for her to replace me
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : Do you think that the C/L position will ever be one to vote on? on the colony level
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : That would be up to the CL running the colony if they wanted to have a colony vote
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Seriously considering the possibility of separating the CL's from CC. That would need to be accepted by the CLs, caretakers, and the founder
[Neighborhood Deputy] Oraek [6674] : I think if the decisions for who became CL came down to voting, there wouldn't be that great of voter turnout. I would bet less than 5% :o)
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : City council does not dictate colony policies
[Colony Deputy] webster2000 [13592] : Is there a faster way to select place chiefs? 'cause in certain circumstances, it can be urgent.
Elder] SuluMor [11864] : Would the CC's be elected from the individual colonies?
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : I honestly don't know. Gortz had some good ideas on making sure a cc member was a CL for X period of time
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : there are a lot of variables to consider
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : and the current council would need to approve this..
[Colony_Deputy] ashesflame [19809] : I'm sorry Jo, I don't understand how you mean it would be up to the CL to decide? Can you clarify how that could work?
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : The current colony leader would need to make the decision if they wanted to have their colony vote for a replacement
[Templar] Borg7_of_9 [18644] : I think it is obvious that the City needs to be represented by its Colonies, and therefore the CL's are the logical representatives
[City Council] Lysander [27206] : indeed Borg :)
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : true Borg and that's one of the reason's council voted down separating the positions
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : you bet borg
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : For example, CL's who want to retire have presented replacements, others have requested open applications..
[Neighborhood Deputy] Oraek [6674] : The Colony Leaders should be representatives of the people of their colonies, and I feel this is best done by allowing the people to choose who best represents them, not the council
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : does that help?
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : you can take that up with your C/L, Oraek
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Judging by the current CL's, I think the citizens are very well represented :)
[Neighborhood Leader] MsKelleigh [14244] : I think if you were to remove the CLs, People would feel you have Removed their Voice. (imho)
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : C/L's are the important link
[Neighborhood Deputy] Oraek [6674] : I'm sorry... I didn't mean to give the impression that I or anyone else felt that I wasn't being represented well
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : CL's should have the pulse of the colony for sure, that's their job
[Elder] Radicool [12302] : we are happy with our CLs
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : yep
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : I didn't take it that way :))
[Mall Deputy] Lanneret [11718] : I can see an argument for having CL positions elected - either by Colony residents or staff; how do the council feel about this in principle
[City Council] Lysander [27206] : we are happy to hear that Radicool :))
[Colony Leader] Karyll [29956] : Even if elected, I think it would have to be from a pool of experienced enough people.
[Ambassador] Jason_RC [10356] : Maybe one way would be for City Council to state screen applications and present the names of who can run for the CL posts and then let the colony decide by voting so that the colony vote is not overruled.
[Ambassador] Jason_RC [10356] : in a similar way that CERB candidates go through an application before declaring who will run
[Colony Leader] Karyll [29956] : therefore the election would still be someone stifled, there are tools and experience that are needed in this position
[Colony_Deputy] ashesflame [19809] : that makes sense
[Colony_Deputy] Gizmo_2000 [12057] : When will the new CLs be announced?
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : Since C/L's have the pulse and all of that with their colony's they need to be on council, I believe
[Colony Leader] Karyll [29956] : I know Jo polled the people about me.. staff and long term residents.
[E-Plex Deputy] CyberAngel2000 [16224] : Exactly Karyll
[E-Plex Deputy] CyberAngel2000 [16224] : What I truly fear if we allow residents to elect CLs is that a popularity contest may occur. I believe if someone was appointed the colony would have a much better chance of getting an experienced and seasoned CL
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : I can see in some ways how an election could be good, but I know in my case, I would not have wanted a person I hadn't worked extensively with to get the job. My colony was my 'baby' :o)
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : I was going to say that.. but... lol
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : that is very much a consideration CyberAngel
[Security Commissioner] Oherra [18857] : I agree with flyby, CLs need to be on council to represent their populations. I also think the City should have a few representatives too and I think the council is working to address this.
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Sometimes people only "hear" the loudest voice..
[E-Plex Deputy] CyberAngel2000 [16224] : What about appointing other facets of the city? Entertainment, Security, etc.
[E-Plex Deputy] CyberAngel2000 [16224] : It would give a more well-rounded council to vote on issues that will effect those areas
[City Council] Lysander [27206] : personally I am a big democracy fan... in RL.... but in Cybertown democracy has a lot of disadvantages and can cause a lot of trouble... I don't want to say that the residents are not suitable to vote for their representatives
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : true Lys
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : Many things have to be considered before a complete change is warranted, I would think
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Yes, the council is looking at addressing additional seats to the council for a broader representation :)
[Wizard] cheercoach [25030] : now that is wonderful news
Question And Answers
Procedures on hiring new chief
[Elder] frankster200 [9176] : radicool, there has to be a place chief job available
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : take recommendations from retiring chief, sometimes there is more than one
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : interview, present candidates to council for vote
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : caretakers approval, and final founder approval
[Neighborhood Deputy] Debuty5 [1932] : Question: Jolinth, can we get moderation for our house?
[Colony Deputy] webster2000 [13592] : What is the chief has been deemed inactive? For some places, that may take to long, is there a way a temporary chief can be put into place?
[Neighborhood_Deputy] petite_artist [6998] : Jo, were you CL in IR? I remember your name when i was brand new in Spirituality Hood there
[Neighborhood Deputy] Oraek [6674] : Please allow the exchange of comments to flow people!!! Please maintain some order
** chat moderated by Oherra **
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : sorry, but I simply couldn't keep up with that much chaos :)
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : ok ;) movin on :)
Question and Answers
New Colonies?
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Question: My question is I would like to know why there are no new colonies being opened. I know that a few have been approved, but so far there is no expected date to start incorporating any of these into Cybertown. I really think that some new variety and choice would start to attract more people to Cybertown. We have been "stuck" with the same colonies for quite some time. Thanks for taking the time to read this question.
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Answer: While there are approved colonies, true, there simply isn't the technical assistance available at this time to create the new colonies. Making minor fixes dates and even additions to the existing structures are being completed and implemented
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : There will also be an announcement in about a month regarding the visibility, continuation and what exactly is going to happen with us and blaxxun in 30 days
Oherra : ...: I want more colonies
[City Guide] kalamata [10429] : maybe just modify the existing ones
[Neighborhood Deputy] Oraek [6674] : Also, there aren't enough people to fill the jobs already open
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : hopefully after that we'll have a better idea on when we can get more colonies up
[Colony Deputy] Lothien [18240] : If I may Jo, also in addition staffing colonies is an issue, better to have a few well staffed colonies then a ton of empty ones
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : there is still the issue of not having enough people to fill the current open positions
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] :
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : true Loth
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : any comments on this one?
[Neighborhood Deputy] Oraek [6674] : There's just too many jobs open in colonies and not enough interested people
[Elder] frankster200 [9176] : 559 people in Cybertown at this second, is that not enough staff?
[Templar] Fratman_04 [18647] : What is the current situation with the CERB representatives....I know there was some turnover in that particular dept. and i was hoping you could enlighten us as to the status of said positions
[Colony_Deputy] Dannigirl825 [7702] : I say if a neighborhood has a smaller limit than 30 blocks that more jobs can be opened that way as well.
[Neighborhood Deputy] Oraek [6674] : In many cases, people are being hired as Block Leaders with as little as 100 experience
[Templar] Fratman_04 [18647] : not all the people work, frankster...and you can't make them
Question And Answers
Technical Assistance
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : technical issues/policy help..etc., finding out what the places really need.
[Ambassador] Jason_RC [10356] : Is there a list somewhere of what minor fixes are being undertaken and showing how they will improve our Cybertown experience? As these are considered priority it would be good to explain to everyone why and maybe that way they can see the benefit of addressing them first :-).
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : It's not as much a matter of what's addressed first Jason, as it is how much tech support we have to implement the improvements
[Club Owner] PixieBoots [14412] : I agree that it would spread resources too thin to open more colonies.. don't we have plenty of variety with 9 colonies now?
[Neighborhood Deputy] Oraek [6674] : I would like to recommend going back to the old payment and experience system
[City Guide] kalamata [10429] : ask some volunteers to help
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Every update that has been completed thus far has been posted on the council and feedback board Jason :)
[Templar] Borg7_of_9 [18644] : part of the problem is that the pay system is not working correctly
[World Builder] Escort [10481] : I think Jason's point was how the citizens can get information about progress
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : perhaps something can be arranged to be posted in CVN on a weekly or bi-weekly basis
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Also, like with the fix to the MS Colony board, they posted it on their own boards..
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : and adventures new plaza had a nice grand opening party :)
[Ambassador] Jason_RC [10356] : ok...that implies that we have tech support available to us...and I know they do a good job...what are they currently working on and how will that benefit us as members of the community?
[Colony Deputy] Coolkama [12006] : i believe some things are being addressed as we speak, Activities button has been repaired, e-Plex has been updated and links repaired and some more as soon as I remember them lol
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : LIMITED tech support :)
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : we do not have full time tech support at this time, Jason
[World Builder] hypocrates [12438] : Is there a way we as citizens can contribute to the functioning of the Cybertown software, servers, etc?
[Ambassador] Jason_RC [10356] : that update on a monthly basis sounds good vi :)
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : that requires pretty high access hypocrates :)
[Colony Deputy] Coolkama [12006] : ahh club pictures was repaired also
[Wizard] cheercoach [25030] : Clubs staff is currently working on many of the issues concerning problems in the clubs an updated web page will be published as soon as we have some more lists to posts
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : right Jo
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : we have 20 minutes left
[Elder] The_Kraken [16564] : Rather than worry about the new stuff, what is being done to fix the stuff now that needs to be fixed?
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : I will have a URL posted on the feedback and council boards with everyone's questions and the answers we have thus far
sent to Moderator: seina : Thank you Jo :-)
[Security Officer] waynewins [22153] : like the jail?
[Elder] frankster200 [9176] : I think the recent club deletions and criteria were not advertised enough, I suffered as a result
[VirtMaster] Flyby [38099] : right on Jo
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : only one thing can be fixed at a time and I think we're lucky to have the limited help that we do
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Some did require more thought and input than others :))
[Neighborhood Deputy] Oraek [6674] : What ever happened to the jail? There's never any inmates anymore. Do they just get banned now and not allowed into the jail?
[Neighborhood Deputy] Dillinja [5572] : The CC website has a section named "Current projects" where such projects include reviewing CERB guidelines, and streamlining chief positions. Could you possibly tell us what decisions have been made/what changes will be inacted?
[Wizard] cheercoach [25030] : the recent club criteria was announced well in advance and deletions occurred exactly a month after the posting
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : we are still in the process of working on them
[Wizard] cheercoach [25030] : clubs left abandoned and clubs with symbols were our main problem
[Colony Deputy] Coolkama [12006] : I 'd have to disagree, frankster, the amount of posts I saw around the city, you'd need to be blind not to have noticed
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : we have just started, so I don't have much to say yet as far as accomplishments
Oherra : JO: are there more Q&As ?
[Club Assistant] timmocarski [2632] : I think posting the answers to questions posed through the form are a great idea Jo
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : quite a few..but we are running out of time and they are really "thought/talking" questions that i just don't want to breeze over :)
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : let's get at least one more done :o)
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : maybe those that we don't have time for can be put in CVN
Question and Answers
Open Meetings?
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Question: Do you think council meetings should be open to the public or that votes of council members should be public?
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Answer: Town Meetings are open to the public and interaction is encouraged. Council meetings do take on the discussion of security cases, employee discussions, etc., this would not be beneficial as an open meeting as it would violate the privacy of the person who is being discussed. We are discussing how to have an open council session that would not violate the privacy issues but still provide the citizens of a view on what is addressed/being worked on/etc. Voting will be made public, but not with member names. I'm not sure what benefit that would really provide
[Block Leader] Zuriah-Lan [565] : What about a second meeting to cover what we don't in this one?
[Elder] frankster200 [9176] : why not have a separate security issues meeting?? where members case s but specific items are not mentioned
[Templar] Fratman_04 [18647] : but shouldn't the people of the Colony being represented have a right to know how their representatives are representing them? lol
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : the minutes will be posted :) that will also let you know what we're doing
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : we're trying to look at all the possibilities of how to handle such a session
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : Oherra mentioned the possibility of Security town meetings too Frankster :o)
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : and these open town meetings have several CLs attending currently who are also interacting :))
[Colony Deputy] Lothien [18240] : Perhaps in issues that are less confidential, city councilors can discuss with their colonies about how they feel about it and get a colony level input prior to making there decisions only in none confidential matters of course
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : and my personal opinion only here..
[Elder] Radicool [12302] : yes Jo, a great job. and a good turnout of regular citizens as well
[Block Leader] Zuriah-Lan [565] : Personally, I find this enlightening, intriguing and entertaining. And I'm learning a lot more about CT than I did in even three years of toddling around... *grin*
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : if we have these town sessions so that they are specific to topics, we could probably have a much more productive session where all the issues and questions relating to that topic are thoroughly addressed :)
[Wizard] cheercoach [25030] : exactly Jo
[VirtMaster] gnat [23882] : agrees with Jo
[Ambassador] Jason_RC [10356] : this goes back to is the CL representative of the people in the colony....or someone who has worked their way there...if the CL is voted in then their votes should be public record
[Neighborhood Deputy] Dillinja [5572] : I agree
[Colony Deputy] NerdMan [15079] : Agreed
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : and also have the people who really can provide that input present..ie...security, techs, chiefs, etc..maybe even hawk
[Block Leader] Zuriah-Lan [565] : Very good idea. That way there's no room for argument later... there's not much that can't be covered in a specific meeting
[Block Leader] Robertoberle [3198] : is Hawk going to attend this meeting
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : I honestly don't see how that would be beneficial Jason, but will discuss it with the council :)
[Colony Deputy] Lothien [18240] : I have to disagree somewhat Jason, often a CC must vote for what is best for the city on a whole not just there own colony even if there colony dislikes that decision, a CC must try to work for the city interests as well
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : I believe he was tied up today....
[Block Leader] Robertoberle [3198] : ohok
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : nice point lothien
[Gallery Deputy] goldboarder [12718] : look at what loth said, isn't that a good reason to split the CL and cc jobs
Question and answer
Cybertown's Future
Oherra : ...: WHAT IS the CT situation with the server / the sponsor / and future projects?
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : answer to oherra: Those questions will be answered in about a month
Oherra : lol that was weed7's question
[Neighborhood Deputy] Oraek [6674] : Something came to mind!!! What happened to CyberTown NG?
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : maybe that will be brought up in Hawk's announcement in a month
Question and answer
Clubs question
[Wizard] cheercoach [25030] : .. is there a way for Clubs to get a message out to every home owner alerting them to the deletion upcoming of clubs with symbols? We still have many that have to be deleted and do not wish to delete those of active citizens
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : the message to all doesn't work?
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : that's an access rights issue so I would say no
[Wizard] cheercoach [25030] : nope
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : ahh..
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : uhh..
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : not message to all in clubs Jo
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : that's another thing to work on :o)
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : good :)
[Ambassador] Jason_RC [10356] : and wearing both hats is a conflict of interest for the CL who has to but the needs of their colony on a back foot
[VirtMaster] gnat [23882] : Are there any plans to celebrate a five year birthday party for CT?
[Security Officer] bigboss345 [22662] : Please everyone! if you send a security alert, tell us where you are when you send it, so we can find you faster
[Colony_Deputy] ashesflame [19809] : is there not some way that it can be sent for the Clubs Chief?
[Wizard] cheercoach [25030] : well in that case.. lol. Perhaps every CL could inform their staff to message all homeowners for us
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : that is a GREAT idea gnat!
[Colony Deputy] Coolkama [12006] : well you could post to all top level message boards, asking that the CD message to all and they ask the NLs to forward to all, and they ask the BLs to forward to all.. then your covered hehe
City Wide Events
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : During our last council session, we talked about a city wide event :)) I think this is very exciting and the floor will be open for this one :)
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : speaking of..for our last 4 minutes
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : I'm sure they would cheer
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : the council did discuss a city wide event :))
[Wizard] cheercoach [25030] : super
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : it seems MauveCat and company have been working on a World's Fair concept
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Karyll's cd deltawine has been gathering folks for something on a smaller scale..
[Colony_Deputy] editme [11079] : when is this date supposed to be
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : but..we would really like to do a city wide event!
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : that is the questions to be answered.. It's all initial talking and trying to figure out how to do these things right now
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : but wanted to let people know :)
[Colony Leader] Karyll [29956] : Deltawine is just making the contacts now, and is excited at the prospect of doing 3-4 city wide events a year at least.
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : We need some fun wouldn't you agree :))
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : I'm having fun now :o)
[Wizard] cheercoach [25030] : nods
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : but party fun would be great!
[Block Leader] Zuriah-Lan [565] : That's awesome! What kind of things would you want to include?
[Neighborhood Deputy] Weed7 [9057] : The city wide event is a good idea but you can't just brush one up in 5 min. Takes planing
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : hope so :o)
[Colony Deputy] Coolkama [12006] : (how about we wait to see CT now staying lol)
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : lol right ck
[Ambassador] Jason_RC [10356] : can you put the rest of the questions and answers you had prepared on the site that we did not have time to cover as well please?
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : We both realize everyone wants everything yesterday :) but..the patience displayed is very much appreciated
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : yes jason
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : super :o)
[Block Leader] Zuriah-Lan [565] : Thank you Jolinth for the enlightening meeting. Will there be a second meeting to cover what we missed here today?
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : all the questions with all the answers will be on the site
[Colony Deputy] NerdMan [15079] : Is there going to be a log of this Public Meeting on CVN?
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : in topic divisions
[Block Leader] Zuriah-Lan [565] : Once a month maybe or once every other month?
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : that would be ideal zuriah :)
Additional Questions not addressed due to time
[Neighborhood_Deputy] flannery [8316] : considering on putting the news center on the jumpgate?
[Colony Deputy] webster2000 [13592] : What is the procedure on picking new chiefs?
[Colony Deputy] Caileadair [16240] : has a question... Is CT currently stable financially or still in jeopardy of closing down?
[Elder] Radicool [12302] : question: how can I have a better chance at getting a place chief job? I am on everyday, do my job, do MORE than my job. can anyone help me please? I want to be more active
Wrap Up
Thanks for the Meeting
[Gallery Deputy] goldboarder [12718] : Thanks mayor, city council and the others for this meeting it was great to hear what going on in CT.
[Colony Leader] Karyll [29956] : Thanks everyone. *smile*.. bye for now.
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Also there will be posted scheduled times that KB and I will be available for discussions..like set hours :)
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : let's leave it up till the end of the day for any last minute questions :)
[City Advisor] Vialle [29041] : lol
[Wizard] cheercoach [25030] : lol bows to Oherra and sprinkles him with Fae Dust
[Colony_Deputy] Vitalone [22065] : Thank you, Jolinth
[Wizard] cheercoach [25030] : giggles
[Colony Deputy] Coolkama [12006] : will do
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : Thank you to simi, oherra, flyby, vialle, and all the council members for their assistance today
[Colony_Deputy] Vitalone [22065] : Thank you for an excellent meeting, Ms Mayor!!!
[Block Leader] Zuriah-Lan [565] : Thank you, Jolinth. Much appreciated ^^
[City Mayor] Jolinth [20150] : and thank you, citizens of Cybertown for coming :)
[Theatre Chief] zoundite [21242] : I feel that a lot of good questions were brought to attention today. I thank everyone who made this possible.